I really like the men's boxer briefs. I became a convert several years ago, when on a whim, I purchased a pair from a natural food store in Cleveland Ohio and I haven't looked back. It has been a wonderful few years with one exception; recently my bb's have become noticeably less durable. As a person who tries to live in a more sustainable manner, I bike commute on a daily basis. Recently this has taken a toll on my current stock of underthings! My idea is this; create a "bike commuter" line. Use a heavier weight fabric for the bottom panel (crotch). That's it. Other than that, I freakin' love the boxer briefs. Thank you and have a swell day.